Friday, March 19, 2010

TIRUPATI - BALAJI- IS A JAIN TEMPLE OF DRAVID CIVILIZATION.

WORLD'S RICHEST TEMPLE – THIRUMALAI - TIRUPATI - BALAJI- LORD VENKATESHWARA IS A JAIN TEMPLE OF DRAVID CIVILIZATION.
This is originally a Jain temple converted by Ramanujam/Sankaracharya around 8th century A.D onwards along with 1000s other dravid temples.
.Complete idol is covered to hide its original identity. Balaji has been photographed on many occassions without Jewellary and it is found to be a Jain Standing Tirthankara Neminath which many brahmins believe and admit. Archaelogical scientists, honest historians have proved this to be a Jain temple.
Millions of people visit Balaji temple but no one know reality about this temple. It is truly a Dravid temple, which is confirmed by Archaelogical department as Jain temple. Many brahmins silently believe and agree that it is originally Jain temple converted by Ramanujam and Sankaracharya as 1000s of other dravid Jain temples converted, rechristened by Avatar philiosophy. No Historian can ever claim that there was any god by name Lord Venkateshwara.
Many historians world wide believe - any given old temple in southern part of India is originally a Jain temple. However it may have changed its name. Archaeological Senior officers (who chose not to comment much due to political dominance ) firmly believe that originally complete dravid population was Jain who were not fighters like aryans, and believers of Ahimsa, whose heritage was stolen by cunning aryans who came to India around 3500 years ago. For example Thirukural was product of dravid civilization ( written by Jain Saints) but later it was labelled as Hindu literature at the time Hinduism was not known with its present name around 1st century B.C.when sacrifice of animals and vaidic religion was in vogue.

To conclude Tirupati balaji temple is wonderful temple belonging to all devotees, it can be run the way it is going. But at least its true history and identity has to be made known.
Most of gods elsewhere in Hinduism whose abhisekham is performed in public view, same way Tirupati's rituals need to be done in open with public view. As we all believe god are not property of brahmins alone, but they belong to devotees.
Why Tirupati Lord venkateshwara's face has to be hidden. When no face of Lord Rama, Lord Krishna, Lord siva, Lord brahma, Lord Ganesha are hidden. This looks quite weird hiding face of god to mislead its real identity.
We would all love to have our god let it be Brahmin or Jain , it has to be in open for everyone.
Let us ask those brahmins to perform all pooja, abhisekham openly, not to hide with curtains or by closing doors. There is absolutely no need to keep God in private if this is real .
This is one of reason only 2 % of complete structure is visible to devotees, which doesn't happen with Lord Krishna, Lord Rama, Lord Hanuman, Lord Ganesha in other parts of India. God's identy is hidden only in such temples when temple would have been converted from Jain temple and their naming is done on fabricated, non-historical avatars.
Can we request temple authorities to reveal its true identity and to see full face and posture of god Can we have real photograph without artificial projected hands, face and other parts.
From ages Dravid history has been mutilated, wrongly potrayed by so called responsbile vested interests of society, politics and even government. It is Aryans whose history, mythology and wrong facts are superimposed over dravid history, who were immigrants to India. Dr Santhalingam, senior director of Archaelogical survey and his assistant, and ASI has unpublished researched facts which clearly state that , Every old temple in south was once jain temple, presently known with different identity created by brahmins, few such examples out of 1000s of dravid jain temples converted to Brahmin temples are:
1) Madurai Meenakshi temple
2) Kanchipuram kamakshi temple (Kanchipuram has more than 100 temples)
3) Varadaperumal temple ( kanchipuram)
4) Thiruvanmalai Arunachalam temple
5) Mylapore kapaliswara temple
6) Nagaraja temple nagercoil
7) Thirumala Balaji temple, ( total resemblance to thirumalai jain temple in Arni district)
Dr. Santhalingam expressed that due to political circumstances these facts cannot be disclosed or published, but facts remain same. He also said Thiruvalluvar was a Jain saint who wrote the famous Tamil classic Thirukural He has done enough research but unable to publish same.Even Tamil was evolved from Dravid Jain civilization born out of Brahmi language. Enough evidences are avaialable from epigraphyAccording to him Aryan Brahims invaded jain temples and converted them as their source of livelihood.
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Ex-President, National Society for Prevention of Heart Disease & Rehabilitation,
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S K Jain said...

Yes, there are many evidence of Jainism believed as oldest Dharm, not Varn. Moreover Jains do not want to claim any worship back as we in believe Ahimsa. Even to avoid conflicts Jains left Junagarh, Pawagarh in Gujarat & Rishabhdev in Rajasthan, Gaya in Bihar, etc to Vaishnavas in recent past as they became violent to keep Jains away from their Teerths.

Unknown said...

is this matter in court is any judgement of court that tirupati balaji is a jain temple ? if anything of court judgment please share with me on rushabhbardiya@gmail.com
Thank You !!

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Kala said...

Wow! A deep research based thinking
Adorable!!!!

Kala said...

Really very informative


Unknown said...

Dear good souls, the conclusion is Lord or parabramha (moksh) can be given by only Vishnuji or Shivaji...however you fallow( Procedure)like..yoga, pooja, dyana, prey or Whomever you fallow (belief) like..stone, tree, allah, jesus, all indian gods, budda, and all....Finally if you are sacred the five things( water, earth, fire, earth, sky) will promote your body from meterial to eternal. So..every warm has right to live here and make its life better(atleast). Jainisum says same...if you are not hurting even a bad warm...you need not to devote god...god will come behind you...Hinduisum says devote and believe god and do good even for a bad warm I will take care the rest...both are involving discussion instead fallowing...whatever the road..final destination is MOKSH. But, as jains says it is a statue of teertankar ji....then its great...for hindus and jains both...because both believe no difference we see between guru and god. Anyway teertankarji is a great guru and if he is devoting as a god..by crores of devotee..whats wrong in it...its his luck. Please understand that god is more than any dharma(hindu, muslim, jain, christ, whomever)its just to understand or try to understand the god like..taking as much water from our hands in the ocean. might be lord venkateshwara is fake...but Lord Vishnu is not fake...I prey lord vishnuji give good status for that great soul of teertankarji...and subuddi (good thinking) for all of us. Please send me mail if you want to chat veeraradhya81@gmail.com. Har Har Mahadev...Sarve janah sukino bavantu. Vagaptavruta samprukto vagattav pratipattaye...jagatah pitarav vande...Paarvati parameshwarav. My face book ID is https://www.facebook.com/veera.aradhya.

Unknown said...

Dear good souls, the conclusion is Lord or parabramha (moksh) can be given by only Vishnuji or Shivaji...however you fallow( Procedure)like..yoga, pooja, dyana, prey or Whomever you fallow (belief) like..stone, tree, allah, jesus, all indian gods, budda, and all....Finally if you are sacred the five things( water, earth, fire, earth, sky) will promote your body from meterial to eternal. So..every warm has right to live here and make its life better(atleast). Jainisum says same...if you are not hurting even a bad warm...you need not to devote god...god will come behind you...Hinduisum says devote and believe god and do good even for a bad warm I will take care the rest...both are involving discussion instead fallowing...whatever the road..final destination is MOKSH. But, as jains says it is a statue of teertankar ji....then its great...for hindus and jains both...because both believe no difference we see between guru and god. Anyway teertankarji is a great guru and if he is devoting as a god..by crores of devotee..whats wrong in it...its his luck. Please understand that god is more than any dharma(hindu, muslim, jain, christ, whomever)its just to understand or try to understand the god like..taking as much water from our hands in the ocean. might be lord venkateshwara is fake...but Lord Vishnu is not fake...I prey lord vishnuji give good status for that great soul of teertankarji...and subuddi (good thinking) for all of us. Please send me mail if you want to chat veeraradhya81@gmail.com. Har Har Mahadev...Sarve janah sukino bavantu. Vagaptavruta samprukto vagattav pratipattaye...jagatah pitarav vande...Paarvati parameshwarav. My face book ID is https://www.facebook.com/veera.aradhya.

Unknown said...

Demystifying the myth behind the Idol of Lord venkateswara.

I would like to present here the facts on the idol rather than assumptions and rumours.

References to the deity, his idol, and the region around Tirumala can be obtained from a range of ancient scriptures such as Varaha Purana, Padma Purana, Garuda Purana, Brahmanda Purana, Markandeya Purana, Harivamsa Purana, Vamana Purana, Brahma Purana, Brahmottara Purana, Aditya Purana, Skanda Purana and Bhavishyottara Purana. Of which Venkatachala Mahatmya and the Varaha Purana & Bhavishyottara Purana pertaining to the manifestation of the Lord at Tirumala, are of particular interest.
Jain poet Ilango Adigal referring to Lord Venkateswara as “Thiru Vengada Mudaiyavar” in his epic work in Silappadikaram, written in 2nd century BC the ,had given the following wonderful description of the holy Lord Sri Venkateswara and His existence on the Venkatachala hills. “..With amazing ponds,beautiful lakes and fabulous flower gardens all around Him,Lord Vishnu Himself (Sengan Nediyan) is majestically standing alone as the ever handsome Pundareekaksha on the sacred Vengadam hill.. ” “He is bearing Sankha Chakras on His arms and Kausthubham on His chest.. He is also adorned with the Pattu Peethambrams (Silk Golden Robes) around His loins and is constantly served by the Sun God and the Moon..”
In fact Rig Veda, according modern scholars which was written around 2000 BC- verse X.155.1 makes an indirect reference to the temple. One such translation goes as:
“The person, devoid of wealth and vision, is implored to go to the hill which burns up all evil (vikata for Venkata) and drives away all obstacles to peace and prosperity. The call of the rishi Sirimbitha has obviously not gone in vain".
For further details on Lord Venkateswara from Vedic scriptures visit

VEDIC PURANAS SCRIPTURES REFERENCE: About Lord Sri Venkatesha of Tirumala Tirupati (Lord Balaji | Go

2. As Assumed by many the statue is not covered on all days, every friday Abhisekam of the main deity is performed while the devotees are having darshan of the Lord.

I am hereby attaching original picture of the Lord


The Lord idol is completely visible during abhisekam, it is answer for those who make false or baseless claims that the idol is always hidden with jewelry.

3. Exceptional and rare features of the Lord Idol

The Idol has a crown on the Lord’s Head.
The Idol has four hands, 2 hands raised up seemed to be holding something(curled), lower hands one is varada mudra(right hand) and other is unusual one(the posture of left hand-the hand is straight down; bent at the wrist and is found lightly resting, just below His left hip.. Such an unusual hand position, according to the Vedic scriptures ,is known as the Katya Vilambita Hastha Mudra”
The idol has curly hairs until his shoulders.
The Idol has srivatsa(goddess Lakshmi) mark on his chest.
The idol appears to wear a dhoti down the waist.
The idol stands on lotus platform.
The Idol height is around 9′4″ tall.
None of these features are found on any jain idol found till date, except for the standing resemblance which the jains give to, for their claim.

4. Jainism is a sect of sanatana dharma of this holy land, it is one of the sects and its traditions that survived till date. In ancient India many different sects originated vowing to different ideologies and approaches to truth, all of them co-existed, which is the beauty of this diversified culture. with time, many such sects perished only a few popular survived till date. Yogi Rishabhanath the founder of jain sect was considered an avatar of vishnu in the puranas. The sanatana dharma is accomodative of all ideologies and sects. Don’t bring friction by making baseless claims, truth can be achieved by any path, provided you are sincere enough.

Hari KV said...

Sir, I want to read the Bukkaraya Sandhi. Can you please share the agreement if you have a copy.

Anonymous said...

This whole write looks another communist attempt Further devide us and when we devide the maximum benefits goes to out siders like christ and Muslims
So if you want truth please go after facts and do lots of research don't jump on conclusion based on someone s propaganda

Anonymous said...

Actually There is no philosophy in jainism of any kind and as like Schizophreniac patient just insect insect insect they play. They not done anything for mankind but just preach dont eat this dont walk dont breath as everywhere microbes and becteria exist.They are not people of Ahinsa but very hinsak. They say Lord Krishna as per jainism is in hell . How come Krishna has come in jainism . When in any epic no reference of any trithankar etc ,Only these people having their exclusive literature where they punish Lord Krishna also. they have only this much to say . Actually in south south indian king has brought Africans as labour and they identify themselves some dravid . Also THE ARMY OF ALEXANDRA was very tired by the time they reach India . They also taken this so called path of ahinsa. Jain people are very abusive and hinsak, They are jealous of the mammoth size identity of hindu god n godess and keep on abusing,so cannot be a religion of ahinsa . The people who can say Krishna in Hell they can say everything belongs to jain. This is all bullshit

Anonymous said...

Aryan identified as Aryan because meaning of this is a title .Arya means like Sir . And this is land of Rishi Munnis since lacs of years .May be lately they got embodied with title Arya by the kings because they done great job for mankind and they have not came from any outside .it is claimed they have come from iran side but then the same civilisation was till there ,one can read Balmiki Ramayan and can know the geographical condition of bharat varsha.Kekai was Afgani and till date Hindukuch Exist there . Panchang is so perfect to tell you the star conditions and all. The great Indian Rishi Munni has done everything for mankind yet not abusing like jains. We dont have any reference where Krishna has abused any tirthankar but they have literature where they have sent to Lord Krishna to hell. Its a mad n abusive path and full of hinsa ,baseless theories and baseless claims .Schizophrenia situation of kida kida kida into this

Unknown said...

The anonymous person above. Please go and read some jain books known as agam. It seems you don’t have any knowledge about Jainism. Jainism is anadinidhan dharam and is no where equal to Hinduism. Jainism has different foods, rituals, tradition and culture and is nowhere same to Hindu. Before commenting on such post do have knowledge about it. As half knowledge is dangerous and that’s what you have. Balaji is a proved neminath temple and so are all the temples jain converted to Hindu. According to mythology, you shouldn’t bow your head infront of God who have and wear astra sastra wife ornaments clothes. Learn and react. People like you will vanish Jainism for sure. Read agams. Jai Jinendra

Unknown said...

Good

J Shah said...

No body can hide the truth. Sooner or later it is bound to be opened... It is a perfect example of this...

Unknown said...

My fellow Indians we have to decide first as a individual or as a nation. we all are brother or sister and the cultural revolution are through out the history all around the world . There is no doubt that Jainism with its principles was under different names at different time. but these temples are for the great saints who has always save the society. Now at this time if the people of that particular area believe in a different name or sect . please we all should live in harmony.also Jain's believe in soul the other things are just material so just be within your soul and love your fellow indians.

Unknown said...

Get ur facts correct dude! JAINISM Is an eternal religion that existed with time! And it will be forever! Nothing to argue over! Peace!

Unknown said...

There is a limit of lying too. Stop brainwashing people with your sick ideas.

Unknown said...

पंढरपूर चे विठोबा हे कोण आहेत तर ते सुध्दा भगवान नेमिनाथ आहेत असे म्हणतात आत्ता" नाशिक " महाराष्ट्र मध्ये मांगी तुंगी जी पर्वत आहे त्या पर्वतावरून भगवान राम , हनुमान , नील, नल , सुग्रीव हे भगवान झाले ते जितके जैन धर्मीय मानतात तेवढेच हिंदू ही मानतात परंतु ते जैन मूर्ती आहेत तरी सुध्दा हिंदू धर्मीय त्यांना भक्ती भावाने पूजतात मी सुध्दा अजैन आहे परंतु माझी जैन धर्मावर अतूट श्रध्दा आहे.तसे असेल तर त्या मंदिरातील देवाची पूजा सगळ्यांत समोर करायला काही हरकत नाही मंजे जैन असेल तरी दर्शन मिळेल आणी हिंदू देव असेल तर ते हिंदू धर्मीय त्यांच्या प्रमाणे देवाला नमस्कार करतील आणी जैन भगवान असेल तर जैन धर्मीय आपल्या देवाची पूजा भक्ती भावाने करतील जय जिनेन्द्र

Unknown said...

100% fake news, I think he is a Christian pastor, spreading wrong and confusion in people so that they can convert people to their religion.

Jinesh Kumar. V said...

I totally agree with your view point Sir, and more so with the concluding part of your opinion - “ Ultimately, what we must accept is that all the religions originated in India are collectively known as Hinduism and it doesn't matter in what form you worship , follow and 'live your life respecting the principles of your dharma. My request is that please do not claim supremacy of one religion over the other as it will lead only to division and by dividing the people of this country, you will not receive salvation and you will lose the ultimate goal of Nirvana as preached by jainism which is a great religion which stood the test of time. By keeping the country and its people united, you respect the tenets of jainism”. Ultimately this view matters most.(Jinesh Kumar.V)

Anonymous said...

The Actual Hinduism Stops at Vedas. Ramanujan and Shankaracharya spread their sampradayas using Puranas. And converted all the ancient Jain and Buddhist temples in Vaishnav temple. Jainas dealed with Hindus to survive but Buddhists didn't.

majid said...

Nice Post

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Anonymous said...

Agree with you. Jagannath temple is also a Jain temple.. actually Hindus made temple where Jain temples were existing..they either encroached them. Manu people are saying that jains are Hindus... Wrong. At the time to first theerthankar Adinath, many kings became Jain sadhus following Adinathji. But they could not do Tapasya and became delusional and left Jainism and started 365 new religion...all the sacts Hinduism are. Rootly coming from there. ...

And ram and Krishnaa were originally follower of Jainism too. As Jainism is a religion, it is a philosophy.

People can believe whatever they like. But facts are facts.

Later Hindus paid what they did to jains by muslims .

Jains are almost extinct because of their strict rules and principles.

Anonymous said...

WELL SAID ARVIND JI, THEY ARE JUST FOLLOWING BLINDLY WITHOUT RESEARCH AND NOT ASKING QUESTIONS FROM THEIR PANDAS, THEY ARE IN MISSION OF CONVERTING JAINS INTO HINDUISM, JAIN SOCIETY SHOUD BE AWARE AND IT IS OUR DUTY MAKE THEM HELP TO DO SO.

Anonymous said...

God news

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